Curse

Scaper-X · Jul 07, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58

In an attempt to ressurect discussion of a rapidly unfolding event, I've created this new thread.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...ube/index.html

The most remarkable aspect of the footage coming in from the motherland is how level-headed the authorities and civilians are. It's precisely what's needed in this situation rather than panic and the chaos it causes.

I have yet to have been able to contact an excellent friend of mine currently in London as part of a summer internship, but I'm certain it's due to the cell services being paused due to the massive number of personal calls and the possibility that terrorists were using cell phones to organize the bombings.

Here in the US, we've elevated to "High" or "orange" terror alert, much later than I thought we would. Also, CNN is currently showing a feed from an eyewitness' cell phone. He was in one of the trains during the attack and started recording immediately after the event. Again, everyone in the car appeared to be calm and collected.

Please continue this discussion civilly and without rants.
-- Scaper-X

Aniewiel · Jul 07, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Agreed, watching how the British citizens are responding to this is very encouraging. There is no wringing of the hands or calling it a "tragedy". The authorities are calling these things "incidents" and will have the transportation system up shortly.

God bless Britain!

Jaythen Tyradel · Jul 07, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Situations like this are always difficult, but I also applaud the ability for those who were involved to reamin clam and not add panic to this horrible event.
Again, condolences and sympathy from across the pond to those affected and hurt by todays events in London.

Sekkira · Jul 07, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

I think it's because of how many times London has been (what would be the word for it) hit? by terrorist attacks. It's pretty much the norm. As that other dude said in the other topic, something along the lines of that they just pick themselves up, dust themselves off, give two fingers to whoever and move on.

Also mainly because the British culture is and always has been purely for a level headed attitude to things, to keep calm in every situation.

Aniewiel · Jul 07, 2005, 04:16 PM // 16:16

I am NOT bashing the US! We are just not as used to having our lives disrupted by acts such as this. As a result, it takes us longer to sort through the mess.

Proud citizen of the US that I am, I also realize that most of the rest of the world is more familiar with terrorism than we are and we are still trying to work out how to -deal- with issues.

Sierra · Jul 07, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

My prayers are with the people of London and the rest of the UK. You really see the strength of people in times like this.

Bravo man, stay on topic. I don't think Aniewiel was intending to offend with that statement. Besides, as a US citizen myself, he/she is probably right.

Principa Discordia · Jul 07, 2005, 04:19 PM // 16:19

ElvenBravo, Aniewiel, I love you both but you're going to have to find some way to come to an understanding about this side-issue before it gets out of hand. Not telling you both to shut up, just to find some peace (PM eachother maybe?) as this thread is already flammable.

It's true that people do handle situations differently, but let's not accuse eachother of bashing. Let's keep it civil.

And now back to our regularly scheduled posting...

Dreamsmith · Jul 07, 2005, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Yes, sadly, the Brits have more practice than we do dealing with terrorism.

Apparently this may have been an al-Quaeda attack. I'm curious, do Irish militants still do this sort of thing or has that died off? I remember there was some sort of peace process going on in Northern Ireland a few years ago but if the news ever covered what became of it, I'm afraid I missed it. How long has London gone without a serious terrorist incident?

Inde · Jul 07, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Removed the anti/pro-US comments.

stumpy · Jul 07, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

my thoughst are with you and the many people affected by this trajedy. It is a horrible thing to happen.

Darkest Dawn · Jul 07, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29

I know the media puts a lot of propaganda out there concerning what Americans do or do not think. However, let me say this: I, and every one I know, even on our talk radio stations, are pro Great Britian, and we love you guys!!!!

Please don't forget that! My heart is broken for your loss.

Sekkira · Jul 07, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aniewiel

I am NOT bashing the US! We are just not as used to having our lives disrupted by acts such as this. As a result, it takes us longer to sort through the mess.

Proud citizen of the US that I am, I also realize that most of the rest of the world is more familiar with terrorism than we are and we are still trying to work out how to -deal- with issues.

The US is probably one of the only countries I've seen deal with terrorism (not the results) so effectively. A terrorist would think twice these days before attacking US soil, it does no good for what they stand for and actually makes their situation worse, especially with someone as gung ho as Bush.

*Not meant to bash or congratulate the US on anything, just an observation I have made.

EternalTempest · Jul 07, 2005, 04:35 PM // 16:35

It's very hard to figure out what to say / how I am feeling / how to word.
I want to help in someway but don't know how so I want to let you know thinking of everyone over there.

Scaper-X · Jul 07, 2005, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

How long has London gone without a serious terrorist incident?

Good question, that. News stations will probably have that statistic soon enough.

Currently watching Pataki, governor of New York, do a televised address. It's really something how much colder and less human he sounds than the authorities in London. It's the phrasing and tone, methinks. This aside, CNN seems to be grinding down a bit, material-wise. Soon enough, they'll be repeating information and unfounded beliefs/rumors. That is, after they spend a half hour commenting on Pataki's comments.

Thanks to the mods for keeping an eye on this thread and keeping it from being tinder.

For those interested, Mayor Bloomberg is now taking the podium.
-- Scaper-X

ElevenBravo · Jul 07, 2005, 04:39 PM // 16:39

To repost my original thoughts on the thread subject. I think Pres. Bush did a excellent job to sum up this terrible incident,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pres. Bush

On the one hand, we have people here who are working to alleviate poverty, to help rid the world of the pandemic of AIDS, working on ways to have a clean environment. And on the other hand, you've got people killing innocent people. And the contrast couldn't be clearer between the intentions and the hearts of those of us who care deeply about human rights and human liberty, and those who kill -- those who have got such evil in their heart that they will take the lives of innocent folks.

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3565722

My thoughts exactly.

EmperorTippy · Jul 07, 2005, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Again my condolences go out to all those who have lost a friend or loved one in this abhorrent attack on the people of England.

Scaper-X · Jul 07, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

This is rather interesting.

CNN just cut from the middle of a live address by New York mayor Bloomberg to former New York mayor Giuliani in front of a bluescreen of London. That's just messed up.

Apparently he's in London on business but still...

EDIT:
Thanks once more, mods.
-- Scaper-X

Dirkiess · Jul 07, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

With regards to when the UK last had a major Terrorist attack, I'm thinking it was some years ago now, when I still worked in London. About 3-4 years i think.

This is really the first major terrorist attack since 9/11 in New York, and the Madrid Bombings a year or so ago, to occur in the UK.

We did have a few hiccups a couple of years back, something that was mentioned to be related to the IRA, or some off shoot of it, but I can't confirm that. It may well have been another organisation.

I have two brothers who work in London, and my younger brother was 30 minutes ahead of the first explosion that hit his rail line while travelling into work.
Luckily, both are fine.

With respect to all those people that are helping in London at the moment, I'm impressed of how well they are doing with the overall problems hitting London, the emergency services are doing a grand job, and the mood of the people seems relatively good, in the circumstances.
It just goes to show what can be achieved in a time of need.

I think one of the reasons why we are so calm over here, is because we are so used to it. Panic never solves anything and always makes it harder to help when everyone panics. I think it is something that has been handed down by our parents who lived through World War II.

Currently there is a Ban over the skies around the main section of London that is currently affected, but services appear to be coming back on, and gradually people should hopefully be getting back home to loved ones and family.

I feel for those that have lost family members and my heart goes out to them.

Lets just hope this is the last we will see of this, and hopefully everything gets back to normal soon.

Thanks for all the support guys. I'm sure the Citizens of the UK would be pleased to hear what is being said on some of these gaming forums.

Pevil Lihatuh · Jul 07, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I have a feeling that Omagh was the last bombing to involve the uk in any way... if so I believe that was a good few years ago.

ManadartheHealer · Jul 07, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scaper-X

The most remarkable aspect of the footage coming in from the motherland is how level-headed the authorities and civilians are.

That is great news, as all terror needs to have fear present to be effective. If people aren't scared senseless, things are always much better